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Post by Iio on Oct 13, 2006 23:10:27 GMT -5
yah, well, crisov does. but, so now (if this idea is accepted) then I would just want to say
*I beleive that people should have to apply for a Kreeshone, and all four staff have to say 'yes, this person deserves to apply as a kreeshone.' because only the more there are, the less mysterious they become.
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Post by Aranel Elensar on Oct 13, 2006 23:16:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree, there has to be restrictions... after all, there were no restrictions on riders, and now just about everyone here has a dragon...
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Post by Iio on Oct 13, 2006 23:19:58 GMT -5
yah, so riders are common place. but I dont want that to happen with the Kreeshone.
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Post by Aranel Elensar on Oct 13, 2006 23:23:18 GMT -5
Right, besides, assuming this is a democracy, it would appear that the Kreeshone are incredibly skilled(to say the least). If there were a whole lot of them, then either why would they not have attacked Galbatorix before, or why would they be attacking now? If you say that they haven't attacked because they were not threatened, then why would they be attacking when nothing has changed?
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Post by Iio on Oct 13, 2006 23:26:46 GMT -5
wel, they are attacking now for something we will make Galb do, and there aren't allot, very few, because something killed them all off, and something hs to be powerful to kill of allot of Kreeshone, considering (I would love for them to be like invincible, like the elves) so they don't die normally.
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Post by lizzard on Oct 13, 2006 23:28:58 GMT -5
if these guys are so powerful, wouldn't it suck if one became a shade?
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Post by Aranel Elensar on Oct 13, 2006 23:29:52 GMT -5
Yes it would.
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Post by Iio on Oct 13, 2006 23:34:25 GMT -5
but, being so powerful, it would be extremly hard for one to do so, but it could be worked into th story line somehow, but really, one could just be evil, that would be just as powerful, and that way it is easier.
*need a name - what is everyone favrite name for the new reb group*
OOC - have to go -
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Post by Aranel Elensar on Oct 13, 2006 23:37:13 GMT -5
OOC- How about I sleep on it, and let y'all know what I think of tomorrow? See ya.
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Post by lizzard on Oct 13, 2006 23:47:43 GMT -5
u all suck! LOLZ! just kidding.
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Post by Kono Slaker on Oct 14, 2006 8:33:22 GMT -5
okay first talking about the name 'Du Wyrda Heill' Since we aren't actually in the book. WE can make this an understood abbreviation. DWH. Whenever WE want to type the name we can either type it all out for encouragement effect, or we can type DWH for speed. What do you think?
also I did some thinking and I think a came up with a plot that supports my idea of their race.
For hundreds of years these eveolved creatures have lived in solitude in a constant war state. Always fighting each other capture each other killing each other. Soon these evolved creature begin finding gold and gems which They use as a sign of their wealth. Who ever has the most wealth controls the empire. Soon the creatures begin killing each other for gold. At last; about 50 years before the fall of the riders; One empire emerges victorious. One single powerful empire that controls all the known land on their side of the beors. They go about their lives with sacrifice and enjoyment while they tease and embarass the remaining prisoners. Soon they grow restless with their empire. They need to fight to show that they arestill the most powerful empire in all the world. They decide to fly over the Great Fence (the beors) and just when they are ready to begin their plight of new lands... A terrifying disease hits. Killing most of their population. About one hundred years ago their bodies begin adapting to the disease with the help of a herd in a valley nears their Empire (or what's left of it) but at a terrible cost. They cannot spread life. Their population will never grow only decline. The herd made a chemical reaction in their blood that when they die life begins again for them but only if the body was pure. Meaning if it died of sickness or in battle it's life would not be regained as a child. They no longer had the will to travers the Great Fence for fear of it's mystical powers sending more evils. They live on as peacefully as a population of no more than 250, until the Saviors come. (Us) (Yes if you've studied ancient American history this will sound a lot like The Mayans the Incas and the Aztecs. Truth is that's where I got the idea.)
We take them over the beors, or at least show them the way. when they see the vast land on this side They look upon it with greed thinking of the being that were so anxious for their help. They would try to rule this land and expand their empire. They then find out that their allies are in poverty (Surda) and they agree that to gain further trust from the temporary allies they will send a caravan of 10-15 Kreeshones back to their capital (needs a name) and they bring back as much gold and jewels as they can carry bringing Surda out of poverty. This move encourages people to join the cause. Soon The rebel group the Surdans The Varden Du Weldenvarden the beors and the Shurtugals all have many people in their ranks and begin planning the downfall of Galbatorix. The council of riders, the ambassador and the rebel leader all discuss heatedly what should be done.
Now the Kreeshones have not forgotten their goal but their intelligence and the fact that their scholars and such are reborn with the same knowledge and that after learning from the elves they are now a magical race with the same skills as the elves without the cost. They can bring someone back to life and theironly cost is having to begin life over again. They have been able to keep their secret of world domination secret from everyone acting as if they too wish for the land to be free. When on the sidelines they are preparing off the 6 sects' (lol)/the rider's council's plan of attack and modifying it for them to take over the empire.
Okay Opinions? This is subject to change and I tried to make it as detailed as possible and made it solve and create a lot of problems for everyone. I decided not to add whether or not the take over the land because the idea of a new evil taking galb's place does sound good to me. We should have a poll for that too.
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Post by Kono Slaker on Oct 14, 2006 8:42:23 GMT -5
PS I put foward DWH as the name. My second choice would be edoc'sil.
I also give my reasons. If they are tryign to keep their true intentions secret (in my plot) than DWH would seem holy and good which would help convince people to join them. Whereas Edoc'sil sounds a little like Wyrdafell. Not it how it looks or sounds but how someone would say it. With either fear disgust or authority. Now that is sounding a lot like what we already have.
now if we go with Iio's edoc'sil is my vote.
So: Edoc'sil=Iio's plot DWH=Kono's plot there are my votes.
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Post by Iio on Oct 14, 2006 11:34:38 GMT -5
I like your detailed plot, but what I see wrong with it is I was kind of hopping them to be peaceful, not war hungry, and you make them sound almost primative, who ever has the most money wins.
my 'vision' (lol, I HAD A DREAM!!) of thr Kreeshone was them being the elves with round ears and wings. So their attitudes toward life would be like the elves, they would act like the elves, they would (live forever like the elves?), and they would be swift and as good of fighters as the elves, and even better in the air.
Cause if we want this new mystical species, what is so mystical about a weak thing with wings that just cares about money? I like my plot better then yours for the only fact of it is less detailed, so there is room for agreement and change, and too, I like the reason why they are fighting the empire better, cause they are tired of having to live in the beors, and your reason for their wanting to fight the empire is because they want power, which is a cool good explaination, but I just don't like it cause that isn't the way I would like for them to act, wanting and needing power.
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Post by Aranel Elensar on Oct 14, 2006 11:48:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I hadn't thought of them as Greed. The way you (Kono) puts it, they want power and money... I was thinking more along the lines of what Iió said. They would basically be elves with wings, for lack of a better description. I'm not sure if there is anything else I could say; Iió's post basically says what I think...
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Post by lizzard on Oct 14, 2006 13:35:04 GMT -5
i was thinking they look like this... maybe... and they can't have dragons since they were not part of the magical pact. NO EXCEPTIONS! risky enough having a half-dwarf human dude. what would christopher say? tisk, tisk. I actually emailed him and gave him the linke to here the other night.
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